diff --git a/backend/windmill-api/src/drafts.rs b/backend/windmill-api/src/drafts.rs
index 8d6bb8612b..a1e6dc6b7d 100644
--- a/backend/windmill-api/src/drafts.rs
+++ b/backend/windmill-api/src/drafts.rs
@@ -1177,8 +1177,8 @@ async fn require_can_write_path(
 
 /// Resolves to `Ok(())` if `authed` can read at `path`. Three layers:
 ///   1. admin → always.
-///   2. Path-prefix match against own `u/{username}` or any folder in
-///      `authed.folders` (the precomputed read set, with groups + direct
+///   2. Path-prefix match against own `u/{username}`, a group in `authed.groups`, or any
+///      folder in `authed.folders` (the precomputed read set, with groups + direct
 ///      grants already factored in).
 ///   3. RLS-aware `SELECT 1` against the backing table — covers item-level
 ///      extra_perms grants that bypass folder/owner checks.
@@ -1203,6 +1203,10 @@ async fn require_can_read_path(
     if parts.len() >= 2 {
         match parts[0] {
             "u" if parts[1] == authed.username => return Ok(()),
+            // As `require_can_write_path` and the `see_member` RLS policy read it: a
+            // draft-only `g/` path has no row for the probe below to fall back on, so
+            // without this a member cannot see a draft their group owns.
+            "g" if authed.groups.iter().any(|g| g == parts[1]) => return Ok(()),
             "f" => {
                 let folder = parts[1];
                 if authed.folders.iter().any(|(name, _, _)| name == folder) {
diff --git a/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/editor/AppEditorHeader.svelte b/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/editor/AppEditorHeader.svelte
index b4724805e2..f14ccc7ee5 100644
--- a/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/editor/AppEditorHeader.svelte
+++ b/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/editor/AppEditorHeader.svelte
@@ -111,8 +111,9 @@
 		// event up through these runes-mode components silently drops it.
 		onRestore?: (restoredApp: any) => void
 		// Fired after a successful deploy, which keeps this editor open: `version` is what
-		// the deploy wrote, for the next draft's fork base, and `head` what is deployed now.
-		onDeploy?: (e: { version?: number; head?: number }) => void
+		// the deploy wrote, for the next draft's fork base, and `head` what is deployed
+		// now, with its author and time.
+		onDeploy?: (e: { version?: number; head?: number; headBy?: string; headAt?: string }) => void
 	}
 
 	let {
@@ -416,7 +417,12 @@
 		if ($app) $app.parent_version = claimed
 		// The route owns the pair the out-of-date prompt reads, and this editor stays open
 		// across the deploy, so hand both over rather than leaving it on the old ones.
-		onDeploy?.({ version: claimed, head: version })
+		onDeploy?.({
+			version: claimed,
+			head: version,
+			headBy: appHistory[0]?.created_by,
+			headAt: appHistory[0]?.created_at
+		})
 
 		closeSaveDrawer()
 		sendUserToast('App deployed successfully')
@@ -1042,7 +1048,13 @@
 					itemKind="app"
 					path={userDraftPath}
 					draftOnly={newApp}
-					{onResetToDeployed}
+					onResetToDeployed={onResetToDeployed &&
+						(async () => {
+							// Back on the deployed version, so whatever the last deploy could not claim
+							// no longer describes this editor.
+							baseUnknown = false
+							await onResetToDeployed()
+						})}
 					{loadedFromDraft}
 					{othersDraftsCount}
 					{onOpenOthersDrafts}
diff --git a/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/types.ts b/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/types.ts
index 76e138893a..75de2d7faf 100644
--- a/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/types.ts
+++ b/frontend/src/lib/components/apps/types.ts
@@ -184,9 +184,10 @@ export interface AppEditorProps {
 	// which does not propagate through these runes-mode components.
 	onRestore?: (restoredApp: any) => void
 	// Fired after a successful deploy, which keeps this editor open: `version` is what
-	// the deploy wrote, for the next draft's fork base, and `head` what is deployed now.
-	// The two differ when another deploy landed beside this one.
-	onDeploy?: (e: { version?: number; head?: number }) => void
+	// the deploy wrote, for the next draft's fork base, and `head` what is deployed now,
+	// with its author and time. `version` and `head` differ when another deploy landed
+	// beside this one, which is when the out-of-date prompt has something to say.
+	onDeploy?: (e: { version?: number; head?: number; headBy?: string; headAt?: string }) => void
 }
 
 export type App = {
diff --git a/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditor.svelte b/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditor.svelte
index 9d8f288bbe..d178d97ada 100644
--- a/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditor.svelte
+++ b/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditor.svelte
@@ -105,7 +105,13 @@
 		/** Fired after a successful deploy; the session preview reloads on it and the route
 		 *  re-pins the draft's fork base. `version` is what this deploy wrote and `head`
 		 *  what is deployed now: the two differ when another deploy landed beside it. */
-		onDeploy?: (e: { path: string; version?: number; head?: number }) => void
+		onDeploy?: (e: {
+			path: string
+			version?: number
+			head?: number
+			headBy?: string
+			headAt?: string
+		}) => void
 		/** Initial collapsed state for the file/runnable sidebar. The user's
 		 * toggled preference is persisted under `sidebarStorageKey`; this prop
 		 * only seeds the very first open. */
diff --git a/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditorHeader.svelte b/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditorHeader.svelte
index 7cc0415539..5303021581 100644
--- a/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditorHeader.svelte
+++ b/frontend/src/lib/components/raw_apps/RawAppEditorHeader.svelte
@@ -155,8 +155,15 @@
 		autosavePath?: string
 		// Fired after a successful deploy; lets the session preview reload. `version` is
 		// what this deploy wrote, for the next draft's fork base; `head` is what is
-		// deployed now, and the two differ when another deploy landed beside this one.
-		onDeploy?: (e: { path: string; version?: number; head?: number }) => void
+		// deployed now, with its author and time, and the two differ when another deploy
+		// landed beside this one.
+		onDeploy?: (e: {
+			path: string
+			version?: number
+			head?: number
+			headBy?: string
+			headAt?: string
+		}) => void
 		/** Surfaces the user-typed path (`newEditedPath`) up to the route
 		 *  when (and only when) it differs from the deployed/seeded
 		 *  `savedApp.path`. The route writes it into the autosaved raw-app
@@ -575,7 +582,13 @@
 		if (appPath !== npath) {
 			onSavedNewAppPath?.(npath)
 		}
-		onDeploy?.({ path: npath, version: claimed, head: version })
+		onDeploy?.({
+			path: npath,
+			version: claimed,
+			head: version,
+			headBy: appHistory[0]?.created_by,
+			headAt: appHistory[0]?.created_at
+		})
 	}
 
 	async function setPublishState(message?: string) {
@@ -899,7 +912,13 @@
 				itemKind="raw_app"
 				path={indicatorPath}
 				draftOnly={newApp}
-				{onResetToDeployed}
+				onResetToDeployed={onResetToDeployed &&
+					(async () => {
+						// Back on the deployed version, so whatever the last deploy could not claim
+						// no longer describes this editor.
+						baseUnknown = false
+						await onResetToDeployed()
+					})}
 				{loadedFromDraft}
 				{othersDraftsCount}
 				{onOpenOthersDrafts}
diff --git a/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte b/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte
index 8e95a0842c..1006fdb780 100644
--- a/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte
+++ b/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte
@@ -495,13 +495,16 @@
 				{loadedFromDraft}
 				othersDraftsCount={otherDraftsUsers.length}
 				onOpenOthersDrafts={() => (othersModalOpen = true)}
-				onDeploy={({ version, head }) => {
-					// The editor stays open across a deploy, so the pair the out-of-date prompt
-					// reads has to move with it: the base is what the deploy could claim it
-					// wrote (unknown when another landed beside it), the head what is deployed.
+				onDeploy={({ version, head, headBy, headAt }) => {
+					// The editor stays open across a deploy, so what the out-of-date prompt reads
+					// has to move with it: the base is what the deploy could claim it wrote
+					// (unknown when another landed beside it), and the head is what is deployed,
+					// named by whoever deployed it rather than by the page load's author.
 					draftBaseVersion = version != null ? String(version) : undefined
 					if (head != null) {
 						deployedHeadVersion = String(head)
+						deployedBy = headBy
+						deployedAt = headAt
 					}
 				}}
 			/>
diff --git a/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps_raw/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte b/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps_raw/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte
index c63d04479d..6667655406 100644
--- a/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps_raw/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte
+++ b/frontend/src/routes/(root)/(logged)/apps_raw/edit/[...path]/+page.svelte
@@ -655,7 +655,7 @@
 							}
 						}
 					: undefined}
-				onDeploy={({ version, head }) => {
+				onDeploy={({ version, head, headBy, headAt }) => {
 					// The version this deploy wrote is the base the next autosave carries; the
 					// head is what is deployed now. They differ when another deploy landed
 					// beside this one, and the next draft is then behind from the start. A
@@ -665,6 +665,9 @@
 					draftBaseVersion = version != null ? String(version) : undefined
 					if (head != null) {
 						deployedHeadVersion = String(head)
+						// Named by whoever deployed the head, not by the page load's author.
+						deployedBy = headBy
+						deployedAt = headAt
 					}
 				}}
 				onResetToDeployed={reloadDeployed}