diff --git a/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/handler.rs b/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/handler.rs
index 92dd2e1e19..6bc23514dd 100644
--- a/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/handler.rs
+++ b/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/handler.rs
@@ -25,7 +25,8 @@ use windmill_trigger::{Trigger, TriggerCrud, TriggerData};
 
 use super::{
     check_if_valid_publication_for_postgres_version, create_logical_replication_slot,
-    create_pg_publication, drop_publication, generate_random_string, get_default_pg_connection,
+    create_pg_publication, drop_publication, ensure_not_under_roles, generate_random_string,
+    get_default_pg_connection,
     mapper::{Mapper, MappingInfo},
     PostgresConfig, PostgresConfigRequest, PostgresPublicationReplication, PostgresTrigger,
     PublicationData, Relations, Slot, SlotList, TableToTrack, TemplateScript, TestPostgresConfig,
@@ -64,6 +65,15 @@ impl TriggerCrud for PostgresTrigger {
         DeployedObject::PostgresTrigger { path, parent_path }
     }
 
+    async fn validate_config(
+        &self,
+        db: &DB,
+        config: &Self::TriggerConfigRequest,
+        workspace_id: &str,
+    ) -> Result<()> {
+        ensure_not_under_roles(db, workspace_id, &config.postgres_resource_path).await
+    }
+
     async fn create_trigger(
         &self,
         db: &DB,
diff --git a/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/lib.rs b/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/lib.rs
index 41e82614a8..25b19e6c1b 100644
--- a/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/lib.rs
+++ b/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/lib.rs
@@ -374,6 +374,32 @@ pub async fn get_raw_postgres_connection(
     Ok(client)
 }
 
+/// A replication stream reads every row of every table whatever the data table's roles grant, so
+/// the two don't mix: a data table under roles takes no triggers or captures, and roles cannot be
+/// turned on while one is enabled on it.
+pub async fn ensure_not_under_roles(
+    db: &DB,
+    w_id: &str,
+    postgres_resource_path: &str,
+) -> Result<()> {
+    let Some(datatable_name) = postgres_resource_path.strip_prefix("datatable://") else {
+        return Ok(());
+    };
+    if windmill_common::workspaces::resolve_governing_datatable(db, w_id, datatable_name)
+        .await?
+        .datatable
+        .permissions
+        .is_some()
+    {
+        return Err(Error::BadRequest(format!(
+            "Data table '{datatable_name}' is under roles, and a Postgres trigger or capture \
+             cannot read one: a replication stream sees every row whatever the roles grant. \
+             Turn its roles off to stream it."
+        )));
+    }
+    Ok(())
+}
+
 pub async fn resolve_postgres_resource(
     authed: &ApiAuthed,
     user_db: Option<UserDB>,
@@ -382,21 +408,7 @@ pub async fn resolve_postgres_resource(
     w_id: &str,
 ) -> Result<Postgres> {
     if let Some(datatable_name) = postgres_resource_path.strip_prefix("datatable://") {
-        // A replication stream reads every row of every table whatever the data table's roles
-        // grant, so the two don't mix: a data table under roles takes no triggers or captures, and
-        // roles cannot be turned on while one is enabled on it.
-        if windmill_common::workspaces::resolve_governing_datatable(db, w_id, datatable_name)
-            .await?
-            .datatable
-            .permissions
-            .is_some()
-        {
-            return Err(Error::BadRequest(format!(
-                "Data table '{datatable_name}' is under roles, and a Postgres trigger or capture \
-                 cannot read one: a replication stream sees every row whatever the roles grant. \
-                 Turn its roles off to stream it."
-            )));
-        }
+        ensure_not_under_roles(db, w_id, postgres_resource_path).await?;
         // Trigger connections (publication/slot management + logical replication) run
         // as the dedicated replication user on custom-instance databases.
         let resource_value =
diff --git a/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/listener.rs b/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/listener.rs
index 14d348b5f2..876b75661e 100644
--- a/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/listener.rs
+++ b/backend/windmill-trigger-postgres/src/listener.rs
@@ -20,7 +20,8 @@ use windmill_common::{
 use windmill_trigger::{listener::ListeningTrigger, trigger_helpers::TriggerJobArgs, Listener};
 
 use super::{
-    drop_publication, get_default_pg_connection, get_raw_postgres_connection,
+    drop_publication, ensure_not_under_roles, get_default_pg_connection,
+    get_raw_postgres_connection,
     handler::drop_logical_replication_slot,
     relation::RelationConverter,
     replication_message::{
@@ -135,8 +136,8 @@ impl PostgresSimpleClient {
 /// Resolves the Postgres resource, validates that the configured publication and
 /// replication slot still exist, and opens a fresh logical replication stream.
 ///
-/// Returns `Error::BadConfig` when the publication or slot is missing (an
-/// unrecoverable misconfiguration). Any other error is treated as transient
+/// Returns `Error::BadConfig` when the publication or slot is missing, or the
+/// data table is under roles (unrecoverable misconfigurations). Any other error is treated as transient
 /// (connection refused, network interruption, ...) and is retried by the caller.
 /// The resource is re-resolved on every call so credential rotations are picked
 /// up across reconnections.
@@ -149,6 +150,14 @@ async fn connect_logical_replication_stream(
     let PostgresConfig { postgres_resource_path, publication_name, replication_slot_name, .. } =
         trigger_config;
 
+    // Retrying cannot lift roles, so this disables the trigger like a missing slot does.
+    ensure_not_under_roles(db, workspace_id, postgres_resource_path)
+        .await
+        .map_err(|e| match e {
+            Error::BadRequest(msg) => Error::BadConfig(msg),
+            e => e,
+        })?;
+
     let database = resolve_postgres_resource(
         authed,
         Some(UserDB::new(db.clone())),